In the end, Natalie ran out of napalm.
Natalie Cole appeared in Survivor: David against Goliath Ready to tell people what to do and how to do it. However, his perception of arrogance ended up rubbing the members of the tribe in the wrong way, so much so that his fellow Goliaths in Jabeni were willing to give up the advantage of their numbers to get rid of it. Mike joined Lyrsa and Nick in voting for Natalie, while Angelina said on Twitter that she was in the plan, but she cast her additional unnecessary vote to Lyrsa hoping to get Natalie's jacket on her way out. (It did not work)
How does Natalie feel about being blinded by her former allies? Did she go too far in demanding Nick's jacket for her safety? And what about those nice jokes when voting in the Tribal Council? We asked Natalie all that and more when she called EW Morning Live (EW Radio, SiriusXM, channel 105) and she had a lot to say, telling us that she was "intimidated", "reprimanded" and "she felt like a battered woman out there". He also presented a rather explosive accusation against Jeremy, claiming his former enemy deliberately attempted to wound her during a challenge. Keep reading
EW RADIO: So let's go in the door of the jacket, here. There were many jackets that involved many people. At one point we saw you telling Nick that if he wanted to stay, he had to give you his jacket. He said it was intimidation, you said it was a negotiation. What do you say about all that now?
NATALIE COLE: What I'm saying now about all that is that I never really said specifically to give I The jacket, although it did appear as I said that. I told him that Angelina wants your jacket. In fact, when Nick returned to the camp, Mike and I were working at the shelter and he said, "What's going on?" And I said, "Well, Angelina needs a jacket." Those were my words and somehow snowball way there. I did not need a jacket because I always had a jacket.
So it was a bit different from my perspective in terms of what developed. Now, did I try to negotiate to get the jacket in his name? I do. But I found it very interesting and it was a jacket situation for me in the end.
How do you feel in general about the way they showed you in the program, because there were times when you would be in the fire giving orders? Other players felt like you were sitting on a throne telling the staff what to do. What did you do about that?
I will tell you that what happened in that particular scene is that nobody knew how to start a fire and I had been starting the fire for the last two days and they asked me to show them how to start a fire. Then, in particular, Angelina said: "Can you at least show us how to make the fire?" And I was sitting there, showing them how to make the fire because that was part of the problem with the whole situation of the jacket and the eggs. We ran out of supplies and I was saying that if we cook all the eggs now we do not have to restart the fire because literally we had a fire or something, and let's cook all the eggs now. So the whole situation with sitting on the throne giving orders was actually them learning how to light a fire None of them could start a fire.
In light of that, is there any element of frustration on the part of, hey, this is what really happened against, hey, this is what is shown in a program? How are these two things reconciled? Are you upset about it?
You know what? I can not say that I'm upset about it. I also know that it is a very complicated thing because they show a perspective and a narrative that you do not feel fit. That narrative is so powerful because it is being contextualized a lot and it is coming together, and you have a lot of emotionally drawn music that is combined with that scene, and then you have sound fragments that may or may not have happened at that moment. moment. So I can not articulate an argument strong enough to fight all those things that prepare the scene just by telling you this morning with words what really happened.
So I understand how it works. I think I understand it more closely than ever because I've been there. But am I bothered by that? I would not put it in those words, but I would say that the title of that first episode [ED NOTE: “Appearances are Deceiving’] it is very appropriate
Angelina voted for you to stay and then asked for a jacket after you were expelled, but you kept her. Since then, he has indicated on social media that it was a strategy on his part and that he knew he would go home, but he thought that he could take off his jacket if he cast his unnecessary additional vote on Lyrsa instead of you. I'm not sure if you already knew it or not.
I absolutely knew it. Angelina was leading all of Natalie's outing effort and she knew it. I was not even really blinded in the Tribal Council because I watched it roll. And because it has been an uphill battle for me since the first day, I think I just decided … uncle, that is, I'll let it go. All of my circumstances while I was there on the island were very against me. They were so heavy and so negative for the whole race.
So I was able to see Angelina from day 1: she really is the most astute, smart and cunning person that exists. But at the end of the day, she was the only common denominator that she had in the game from one group to another. But what does she do when Lyrsa and Nick approach? I was very excited to share with them what had happened with the Goliaths. So I never had a chance with Lyrsa and Nick because both she and Mike analyzed everything that had happened before they arrived.
Also, Mike was so in love and in love with Jeremy and Jeremy with him. Mike was angry and he knew he could never catch him because he was upset because Jeremy was expelled. So I was confronted again with a sum of negative factors that were weighing against me. Yes, I could see Angelina, she was very transparent at some point and I thought: Wait a minute, I have two votes and Lyrsa has two votes and someone is playing a game. And that's why I decided, I'm not even going to acknowledge that he's begging for my jacket because he guesses what? I would have been so angry that I left her my jacket because she literally prepared me.
Where is the jacket now?
I just used it last night for my last shot when the episode was ending, and in fact, I brought my jacket this morning. I'm wearing my jacket this morning. I put it on this morning because I said, I'm in Survivor deal. I have my Survivor Jacket and it is what it is.
But what people do not realize what happened to me was incredibly ugly and I just dealt with that. I was bullied the whole time I was there. I was reprimanded and hurt in the first challenge and I felt that injury was deliberate in Jeremy's name. Literally, I was trampled on the first challenge, so my back hurt every time I was there. And then there was all the group dynamics that people were so easy to follow the leader instead of taking care of themselves. So they isolated me. And to add insult to the injury, I did not sleep for the first three to five days. I was awake day and night and I was outside when they were inside the shelter. And that's what I mean with the totality of my circumstances. They were so dark, that someone else would have broken. So, what I lack perhaps in agility, could not even be compared to the fact that I remained united and did not completely lose it.
Did you ever raise those concerns about being deliberately injured by Jeremy with the producers?
I was not sure at that moment if he hurt me deliberately. What happened was that, in the first challenge, we had to go through or overcome this bar and when I got to the bar, there was a David invading me on the right side. And when I went to lift my left leg to pass over the bar, and I'm in the middle, Jeremy actually grabs my leg, throws it forward and take me off balance and I fall. But guess that? I fall in traffic. So now I'm trampled.
At first I thought it was a mistake, but when I got up and looked at his face, I thought: My God, are you angry with me for falling? He screamed at my face to the point where I could feel and smell his breath and said, "I was trying to help you!" And I said, "How are you trying to help me when you're causing me to fall?" He said: "Probably cost me this game!" Because I knew he was hurt, but I did not want to tell them that I was hurt as much as I was because I did not want them to talk, "Do it. Do you need to leave the game?
And then, seeing their actions throughout the game, I confirmed in my mind that it was deliberate. I really feel like he wanted me out of the game. He never apologized. I do not even think it helped me get up. Now, this is a person who grabs my leg, tries to throw it forward and makes me fall. At a minimum, help me to upload. At a minimum, apologize. And he knew that I was suffering for the next 10 days. All the time he was in the game, it hurt. So everyone is saying that Jeremy tried to help me is ridiculous. Jeremy was a thorn in my side from day 1 and all I needed was Natalia's comment about being irritated by my suggestion.
First of all, I think Natalia reacted in an exaggerated way. I know what I said at that moment and it was basically that she was running without any sense of organization and I said: "Natalia, can you slow down a bit so we can understand what you want and we can help you?" "And that snowball in her became obsessed with me." And that was all Jeremy needed.
You went to the Tribal Council and on both occasions, while you were voting, you made a scorching comment followed by a compliment on your personal appearance. What was it and planned to do in each Tribal Council?
Yes, I was planning to do that in every Tribal Council. I told Jeremy exactly what he thought. He never supported me since day 1. And that's why when people say that "Jeremy was really trying to help her", really? If you really knew what happened with Jeremy out there. I obtained the title of being confrontational and argumentative. You never saw me start a discussion. I was defending all the time against Jeremy. So I felt like a battered woman. I was disappointed that the rest of the Goliaths allowed that kind of behavior because it was beyond the pale for me.
And particularly during his last Tribal Council, which actually ended up being his compliment, he really dared to go there about my funeral. And I thought it was so ridiculous. And I said to John and Dan: "I am disappointed with you, because if that were me, I could never pass that on my guard, that someone would be attacked in such a way beyond the game and I remain seated and allow it to happen. happened to you, guys? "They talked about that after he left, how horrible it was, but I said," Imagine the best thing that would have been if you had risen up in a timely manner and said that. "
I have to own some of my stuff out there. I am a very direct communicator and I have that thing where everything about me speaks of power. What it really is about is how I try to minimize my power. And this has happened for most of my life, where everything about me is very powerful. I have that presence, so sometimes I have to downplay it and it does not always work to my benefit. So that's where that comment came from.
So I own that. I own the fact that I made some mistakes later in the game because I was tired and had chronic pain for 10 to 12 days. When Nick and Lyrsa approached, I should have extended more to them because I already knew that I was in trouble with Mike and I was very suspicious of Angelina. But at that point, once again, I'm tired and I'm like, whatever.
Also be sure to read Jeff Probst who reveals what happened to the participants during the evacuation of the cyclone in this week's questions and answers, and also check out our summary of the episode. And for more Survivor Scoop, follow Dalton on Twitter. @DaltonRoss.